| <Kepplar> |
hi |
| <Kepplar> |
yea |
| <Kepplar> |
meta data on the flat file storage engine and attachments should be in within the next few days |
| <Kepplar> |
but |
| <Kepplar> |
thats without any intergration into the moin engine |
| <Kepplar> |
ThomasWaldmann: i may be out for a few days while i move to Cambridge, just giving you a heads up |
| <Kepplar> |
with the metadata problem which have two choice |
| <Kepplar> |
a) go with the current format |
| <Kepplar> |
or b) refactor to include alterations to the directory |
| <Kepplar> |
this will make this system incompatble with previous versions |
| <Kepplar> |
personally i prefer the idea of going with a flatfile module and a compatbility mode which just inherits and overrides the metadata stuff as usual |
| <Kepplar> |
but might be problematic as how i've done data is literally just pull the content of the file out |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
what's the problem with something similar to MetaDict ? |
| <Kepplar> |
the main issue with the cambridge delay is they've now installed frigging wireless and i dont have a pci card or a laptop with duel |
| <Kepplar> |
metadict? |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
alzheimer? |
| <Kepplar> |
? |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
I already pointed you to wikiutil.MetaDict 1-2 weeks ago |
| <Kepplar> |
probably, but since theres no real documentation i probably forgot :)2A |
| <richardb> |
Kepplar: moving to Cambridge, UK? I'm very near there (9 miles). What are you going to be up to there? |
| <Kepplar> |
hmm? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: man epydoc |
| <mitsuhiko> |
the moin sourcecode contains of many docstrings |
| <Kepplar> |
lets just say, best not for me to comment on my opinion of some docstrings ive seen :) |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: isnt it nice? click me |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: vb-compatible storage abstraction :) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
omg |
| <mvirkkil> |
Kepplar: I understand you'll lay some groundwork for supporting metadata? |
| <Kepplar> |
xorAxAx: vb compatible? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
it's Hungarian notation |
| <Kepplar> |
xorAxAx: my code is far from finished :P |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: and smallCase for classnames |
| <mitsuhiko> |
each module it's own styleguide. that's moin :) |
| <Kepplar> |
if people have a point, make it :P |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: its modern art you philistine! |
| <mitsuhiko> |
84 def fs_rev_to_int_rev(self, str_revision): |
| <mitsuhiko> |
85 """Converts file system revision notation to integer. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
86 |
| <mitsuhiko> |
87 @param str_revision: File system revision notation. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
88 @return int_revision |
| <mitsuhiko> |
89 """ |
| <mitsuhiko> |
90 return int(str_revision) |
| <Kepplar> |
yes |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: we had it already a few times before |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
Kepplar: getting a wlan card shouldnt delay you much. you can get such stuff at every corner... |
| <mitsuhiko> |
yeah. it's a int() clone |
| <mitsuhiko> |
(or alias?) |
| <Kepplar> |
no |
| <Kepplar> |
that is completly valid |
| <Kepplar> |
The function that is called describes an action. That action may or may not change in the future, it should not be tight-ly coupled with the actual operation |
| <Kepplar> |
should the mechanism alter, instead of replacing it all over the place, you replace it once |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: the fs rev should never leak the proxy |
| <Kepplar> |
Basic software design |
| <Kepplar> |
leak? |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: so such a method should not be public |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: use just one id |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: leak! no other object should know it |
| <Kepplar> |
agreed |
| <mitsuhiko> |
there shouldn't be a public internal id |
| <Kepplar> |
it is private |
| <Kepplar> |
i havent _ed it yet |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
Kepplar will have to rename all those functions and attribute names before it gets into main. fun :) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
.oO(where's the leading underline?) |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: just make a comment but not an underscore |
| <Kepplar> |
There isnt because its work in progress |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: in the docstring |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: erm. why not an underline? |
| <Kepplar> |
ThomasWaldmann: whats wrong with the function name? |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: because i dislike that :) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
hehe |
| * |
ThomasWaldmann is talking of <type>_<name> type names |
| <xorAxAx> |
ok, it would be ok |
| <mvirkkil> |
Kepplar: Is it generic enough so that one may embed annotations like lets say we have an article about Einstein and at some point his dad Hermann would be mentioned. Now I want to annotate that Hermann-fatherOf-Albert. |
| <Kepplar> |
? |
| <Kepplar> |
mvirkkil: what are you talking about? |
| <mvirkkil> |
Kepplar: The metadata stuff you are laying the groundwork for. |
| <Kepplar> |
ThomasWaldmann: I've failed to meet anyone outside this room who endorses you're approach to naming convensions |
| <Kepplar> |
your* |
| <xorAxAx> |
mvirkkil: sounds like RDF |
| <Kepplar> |
mvirkkil: i just store the metadata, i don't care how it's used, the storage engine isnt intelligent like that |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
NOONE code python like you do, believe me. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: i don't get it. you're a soc student? |
| <xorAxAx> |
LOL |
| <Kepplar> |
mitsuhiko: yes |
| <mvirkkil> |
xorAxAx: (it is. I'm working at my universitys semantic web research lab) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: so do what your mentor tells you |
| <xorAxAx> |
mvirkkil: it mainly means storing 2-tuples per page |
| <Kepplar> |
ThomasWaldmann: sure, everyone has different naming convensions, but all have an indicator on type |
| <xorAxAx> |
mvirkkil: which is trivial :) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
and i don't think ThomasWaldmann likes Hungarian notation |
| <mvirkkil> |
xorAxAx: What is trivial? Storing key value pairs about the wikipage? |
| <Kepplar> |
mitsuhiko: i do, but i refuse to write bad code |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: Hungarian notation IS bad code |
| <xorAxAx> |
mvirkkil: yes |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: except in VB |
| <mitsuhiko> |
even the inventor of that bullshit isn't using it any more |
| <mvirkkil> |
xorAxAx: Yup. That's why it's also not interesting to me :) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: option explicit |
| <mvirkkil> |
xorAxAx: With the exception of putting some simple additional information in to docbook. |
| <Kepplar> |
mitsuhiko: bad code, why? lol |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: doesnt change it |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
all our soc students should keep in mind that half term report is not too far away |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: ok. you're right. vb sucks ^^ |
| <mitsuhiko> |
scnr |
| <Kepplar> |
agreed, vb is the spawn of the devil |
| <mitsuhiko> |
then why do you use vb naming rules? |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
and there should be some substantial stuff visible for the mentor as a base for that report |
| <mitsuhiko> |
ThomasWaldmann: do you know the famous paula been? ^^ |
| <Kepplar> |
you'd be out the door in UK industry if you tried to write code without types defined in the name, litterally no joke |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
or he won't have much to write in that report |
| <richardb> |
Um. |
| <richardb> |
Kepplar: not true. |
| <Kepplar> |
richardb: where do you work? |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
mitsuhiko: from dailywtf? |
| <richardb> |
Software consultant, cambridge, UK. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
ThomasWaldmann: jup |
| <xorAxAx> |
richardb is an unemployed stranger living under a bridge! just because he stopped using hungarian notation 30 years ago |
| <xorAxAx> |
(i presume) |
| <xorAxAx> |
thats life! :) |
| <richardb> |
:) |
| <Kepplar> |
code without it is simply unmaintainable |
| <mitsuhiko> |
rofl |
| <Kepplar> |
i have yet to hear a good reason against it |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: use google |
| <Kepplar> |
richardb: what company/ |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
and read thedailywtf.com about paula been(?) :)) |
| <richardb> |
My own consultancy, but clients include lots of IT firms. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/12/153445/601 |
| <mitsuhiko> |
click me |
| <richardb> |
My personal dislike of hungarian notation is that in well designed code it is unnecessary, and just slows development down. |
| <Kepplar> |
i find it speeds it up |
| <Kepplar> |
especially in distributed development environments |
| <Kepplar> |
k5 article has a couple of good points i have to say |
| <richardb> |
For example, in C, it should be obvious from the name of a function what type of thing it will accept, due to what the function does. |
| <richardb> |
In python, though, functions should accept whatever type contains the information needed. |
| <Kepplar> |
yes |
| <Kepplar> |
i've taken that into account |
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| <richardb> |
So, whilst I could just about imagine it being useful in some C projects (eg, where the design isn't clear enough, and can't be fixed)... |
| <Kepplar> |
as i have said - if you want it removed, I will do it at the end, but not before |
| <richardb> |
I can't see why it would ever be useful in python. |
| <richardb> |
well, I'm not your mentor, or a core moin devel, but it sounds like you're going to have to do that. ;-) |
| <Kepplar> |
richardb: however my protest will go into my report |
| <mitsuhiko> |
rofl |
| <richardb> |
Speaking of reports and things, has anyone seem fpletz over the last few days? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
a student that ignores coding guidelines |
| <Kepplar> |
theres guidelines? |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
yes, there are. they didn't include "dont use hungarian notation" yet, but we can add that. |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/CodingStyle |
| <mitsuhiko> |
it says "follows pep8" |
| <mitsuhiko> |
and pep8 defines variable names |
| <Kepplar> |
ah well, all python code should be pep8 |
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| <__doc__> |
wer is hier der mit der ungarischen notation? |
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| <mitsuhiko> |
lol |
| <__doc__> |
^^ |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: en chan |
| <birkenfeld> |
__doc__: in english |
| <mitsuhiko> |
it's Kepplar |
| <__doc__> |
ah |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: you should be ashamed of yourself |
| * |
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Topic for #moin-dev set by xorAxAx at Thu Dec 1 00:29:10 2005 |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
Kepplar: duck! :) |
| <xorAxAx> |
16:49:53 -!- Irssi: New peak in #moin-dev@freenode : 16 |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: I just looked at your source and I thought I go blind |
| <Kepplar> |
? |
| <Gromit> |
means, __doc__ is not amused |
| <__doc__> |
oh I'm amused just fine |
| <Kepplar> |
whats wrong with the code? (Except for being work in progress) |
| <Gromit> |
oh |
| <Gromit> |
do |
| <__doc__> |
did enough C++ olden days Borked things |
| * |
mitsuhiko sets the topic to moinmoin comedy channel |
| <Gromit> |
BTW: do you have a link to the code? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: that's wrong str_location |
| <__doc__> |
click me |
| <Kepplar> |
? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: what's str_ there? |
| <Kepplar> |
its a string? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: no, it's not a string, a string is str() |
| <xorAxAx> |
str_ soudnds like an unnamed string |
| <Gromit> |
urgs: 18 self.str_PAGEDIR = "pages" |
| <Gromit> |
self? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: it's a type prefix designator |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: student tries running away |
| <mitsuhiko> |
that's str |
| <Kepplar> |
Gromit: yes? |
| <Kepplar> |
ive lost you |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: so what if you decide you don't want location to be a string? |
| * |
xorAxAx fetches some popcorn |
| <birkenfeld> |
Kepplar: if you were consistent you'd have inst_self |
| * |
Gromit takes another look |
| <mitsuhiko> |
>>> class A(object): |
| <mitsuhiko> |
... self.cant = 'work' |
| <mitsuhiko> |
... |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Traceback (most recent call last): |
| <mitsuhiko> |
File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
File "<stdin>", line 2, in A |
| <mitsuhiko> |
NameError: name 'self' is not defined |
| <Kepplar> |
birkenfeld: inst_self? |
| <birkenfeld> |
Kepplar: yes, self is an instance. to signify that you add "inst_" |
| <xorAxAx> |
birkenfeld: ACK. def foo(inst_of_class_x_self, str_bar, int_baz): ... |
| <mitsuhiko> |
rofl |
| <birkenfeld> |
xorAxAx: no, def meth_foo |
| <xorAxAx> |
birkenfeld: OOPS! |
| <birkenfeld> |
or, def str_foo |
| <Kepplar> |
mitsuhiko: *shrugs* |
| <Kepplar> |
mitsuhiko: fair enough, i just need to move it, i can't remember everything without running it |
| <Kepplar> |
at the moment I haven't tested the code |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: NO |
| <mitsuhiko> |
1.) drop those prefoixes |
| <mitsuhiko> |
2.) just remove the self. for constant assignment |
| <Gromit> |
how about: 18 str_PAGEDIR = "pages" |
| <Gromit> |
19 str_USERDIR = "user" |
| <Gromit> |
20 ser_CURRENT_FILE = "current" |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: what's a list of strings for you, list_str_myvar? |
| <birkenfeld> |
btw, what are temporary constants? |
| <Gromit> |
i do that all the time |
| <Kepplar> |
__doc__: just a list |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: and what about if you change the type, say you don't want location to be a string anymore? |
| <Kepplar> |
its immutable |
| <Gromit> |
birkenfeld: "constants aren't, variables won't" as murphy says |
| <mitsuhiko> |
birkenfeld: constants assigned in instSelf |
| <Kepplar> |
you'd be copying it anyway |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: you do prefixes everywhere |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: hmm. a list of tuples of str and int... |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: how do you know what a function returns? |
| <Kepplar> |
docs? |
| <birkenfeld> |
doesn't get_data return a get? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: c'mon be consistent, that must be called tuple_myfunction |
| <mitsuhiko> |
rofl |
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| <Kepplar> |
lol |
| <xorAxAx> |
today's lesson: every bigger open source program has a community that joins the team in important situations, even if they are not contributing to the matter |
| <__doc__> |
^^ |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: str_int_tupleMyFunction please |
| * |
__doc__ knows why he's not goint to look at moinmoin, ever |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: right, but then how do you know structure |
| <Kepplar> |
fair point with the get_ return, however im following pep8 when it comes to function naming convension |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: you need a braces identifier |
| <mitsuhiko> |
hmm |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: let's take x for opening brace and X for closing |
| <mitsuhiko> |
yeah. that's good |
| <mitsuhiko> |
and c for comma |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: tuple_x_int_str_X_myfun() |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: good! |
| <mitsuhiko> |
def meth_tuple_x_int_c_str_X(inst_self): |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: tuplexintcstrXmyfun() |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: what kind of inst is that? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
yeah |
| <mitsuhiko> |
def meth_tuple_x_int_c_str_X(inst_MyClass_self): |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: care of metaclasses!!! |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: but derive that MyClass from a new style or not? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
def meth_tuple_x_int_c_str_X(inst_MyClass_of_type_self): |
| <__doc__> |
yeah! |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
maybe we could make a channel #chan_hungariannotationhaters for that |
| * |
birkenfeld thinks of writing an obfuscator using hungarian notation |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: you with us? |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: ohwait, how do you know that's a function and not a method? |
| <__doc__> |
ah, meth right? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: hmm. and the module name? |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: what if it also is decorated with a property? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: we don't need properties. man get_str/set_str |
| <Gromit> |
birkenfeld: jup, PyPy's anotator would help there |
| <__doc__> |
myproperty_meth_tuple_x_int_c_str_X (inst_MyClass_derives_OtherClass_which_is_new_style_type) |
| <birkenfeld> |
__doc__: I think the next step would be to remove the function name since the prefix is unique without it |
| <__doc__> |
birkenfeld: good point! |
| <birkenfeld> |
and it gets shorter then |
| <__doc__> |
birkenfeld: and we could shortify it by taking the first two letters of every _ seperated prefix in camel case |
| <Gromit> |
whioch would read: myproperty_meth_tuple_x_int_c_str_X (inst_MyClass_derives_OtherClass_which_is_new_style_type_with_name_removed? |
| <birkenfeld> |
Gromit: yes, just like this |
| <__doc__> |
MyMeXIntCStrX(InDeOtWhIsNeStTy) |
| <birkenfeld> |
__doc__: hey, that reminds me of Windows API |
| <__doc__> |
right |
| <__doc__> |
wonderfull isn't it |
| <mitsuhiko> |
hmm |
| <do3cc> |
Thats unreadable, you should write metapython code and run it through a parser, which makes python out of it |
| <Gromit> |
did we now make enough fun of Kepplar's coding style? |
| <Kepplar> |
Ok lets just get a few things straight. a) i dont care about getting involved with elitist pythonic community squabbles, i produce instustry standard code. Should it need refactoring at the end to fit you're designs, then thats your choice but for productivity sake I would like to continue with my code. Furthermore you have your opinions - which is fine by me. I disagree, and to be honest, I find the general moin code so badly documented its serious |
| <birkenfeld> |
it's even wonderful |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: c'mon let's join, startup your svn and make some *sensible* prefixes there! |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: and what if a function takes str and unicode? |
| <birkenfeld> |
"Hungarian Python"? |
| <__doc__> |
"i produce instustry standard code" muaaaaahahahahahroflbtc |
| * |
birkenfeld now really rolls on floor |
| <birkenfeld> |
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
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| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: hard hard |
| <Kepplar> |
__doc__: you obviously never worked in industry |
| <mitsuhiko> |
best comedy ever |
| <mitsuhiko> |
ROFL |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: I'm a successfull programmer for the last 7 years |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: be my guest |
| <birkenfeld> |
.oO( how did Python ever get used in industry without using hungarian notation? ) |
| <Kepplar> |
"successful" ok |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: type elitist, much better then no-nonsense elitist eh? |
| <Gromit> |
Kepplar: jus a question, to understand you better: |
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| <Gromit> |
From whcih country are you? |
| <Kepplar> |
UK |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: .oO(is hungarian notation web2.0?) |
| <__doc__> |
mitsuhiko: yeah! |
| <mitsuhiko> |
i really like to publish that log on lucumr |
| <birkenfeld> |
Kepplar: "I don't care" is not appropriate when coding within a community |
| <Gromit> |
IC, thanks? |
| <xorAxAx> |
Gromit: not from ungaria :) |
| <xorAxAx> |
h |
| <Kepplar> |
birkenfeld: i don't care about the squabbling |
| <Kepplar> |
not the working together |
| <Kepplar> |
as soon as it gets elitist |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: link the wiki page tonight |
| <mitsuhiko> |
lol |
| <Kepplar> |
i only hear "meemmemememememem" |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: I'll do |
| <birkenfeld> |
Kepplar: define "elitist" |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: or i will extract the most important part. don't want do diggeffect wikiweb.de :) |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: could you please write an interpreter that translates your code to human readable semantic form? |
| <Kepplar> |
__doc__: are you unable to see str as a string? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: ThomasWaldmann is so quiet. i'm sure he's writing that interpreter atm |
| <mitsuhiko> |
str == bytes |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: well you know usually I prefer to read names at face value |
| <Kepplar> |
__doc__: imho, moin's code is generally hard to read |
| <mitsuhiko> |
unicode == string |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
no, I am doing some work in parallel :) |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: ahum, since it's hard to read on general you don't want to stick out right? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: and specially I hate to run a redefine everything session when the type of something changes |
| <mitsuhiko> |
__doc__: bycicle repair man |
| <ThomasWaldmann> |
Maybe we can just agree on that Kepplar's deadline will be one week early because he will need that long to refactor and test everything. |
| <Kepplar> |
refactor on your IDE2? |
| <Kepplar> |
-2 |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: what's a itrv, quick! |
| <__doc__> |
1 |
| <__doc__> |
2 |
| <__doc__> |
3 |
| <__doc__> |
lost |
| <Kepplar> |
ThomasWaldmann: i have a weeks contingency i think you find =) |
| <mitsuhiko> |
lol |
| <Kepplar> |
item revision |
| <xorAxAx> |
lol |
| <Kepplar> |
this will be documented |
| <do3cc> |
Kepplar: what editor are you using? |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: o-ho, "this will be documented" when? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
do3cc: hmm. visual studio i guess |
| <Kepplar> |
im using eric, but ill move to eclipse as soon as that plugin is released |
| <mitsuhiko> |
aah |
| <xorAxAx> |
Kepplar: hmm, it already works with python, doesnt it? |
| <do3cc> |
that plugin? There is a working plugin already |
| <mitsuhiko> |
it is |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: what type is an item revision? |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: if you keep clicking on the run gc button :) |
| <Kepplar> |
generic |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: yes, i do :) |
| <do3cc> |
So you have nice code completion, long names are readable trust us as industry code writers |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: ahum, very sensible, even for generic types you have prefixes |
| <xorAxAx> |
mitsuhiko: esp. because i have incremental gc |
| <__doc__> |
this is soooo way better then hungarian notation |
| <__doc__> |
it's a nonsaying obscure prefix with no information value whatsoever |
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__doc__ claps his hands in admiration |
| <Kepplar> |
thats because you pretentious twit the code isnt complete nor is my documentation |
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| <Kepplar> |
so if i were you i'll take my head of out my own arse and go and do something productive |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: your documentation will never be complete, and your code is your best documentation. |
| <Kepplar> |
eof |
| <mitsuhiko> |
xorAxAx: peak + 1 |
| <__doc__> |
Kepplar: if your code isn't readable as it is you're a wittless twit |
| <xorAxAx> |
no flaming please |
| <richardb> |
Enough of the name calling. |
| <__doc__> |
^^ |
| <xorAxAx> |
use php and zope channels for that! |
| <__doc__> |
he started name calling |
| <mitsuhiko> |
Kepplar: i'm using moin everyday. i help myself while stopping you to uglify that code :) |
| <richardb> |
Don't care who started. Children. |
| <do3cc> |
he, zope doesnt flame |
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__doc__ runs around the playground |
| <__doc__> |
do3cc: zope does flame when I'm there ^^ |