Comments on: Whitespace Sensitivity http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/ Armin Ronacher thinking Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:20:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: David Roussel http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-12623 David Roussel Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:25:55 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-12623 The Ruby ambiguities remind me of C. The designers of Java had been hurt by C and paid a lot of attention potential parsing gotchas. I think Java will qualify as non-whitespace sensitive. I would say my definition of a whitespace sensitive language is when the inclusion of extra whitespace between two tokens, that could other wise told apart, alters the semantics. I hope that's clear! The Ruby ambiguities remind me of C. The designers of Java had been hurt by C and paid a lot of attention potential parsing gotchas. I think Java will qualify as non-whitespace sensitive.

I would say my definition of a whitespace sensitive language is when the inclusion of extra whitespace between two tokens, that could other wise told apart, alters the semantics. I hope that’s clear!

]]> By: Michael Foord http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-9746 Michael Foord Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:57:45 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-9746 Looks like you annoyed a few Ruby fanboys here. Way to make your language community seem mature guys. Looks like you annoyed a few Ruby fanboys here. Way to make your language community seem mature guys.

]]> By: LOL http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-9298 LOL Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:55:16 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-9298 Is it just you thats retarded, or python programmers in general? Is it just you thats retarded, or python programmers in general?

]]> By: Jochen Kupperschmidt http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-8066 Jochen Kupperschmidt Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:57:01 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-8066 I just recently came across "Python: Myths about Indentation" (which also has been posted by GvR on a forum) and just want to share it with you: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/Python/block_indentation.hawk So far I think it's one of the better explanations and has a good potential to settle the often fanatic discussions. Python's requirements to the programmer in this very case turned out to be a great relief in regards of writing and reading, but itself are derived from languages that influenced Python (especially ABC, as far as I can tell). Actually I'd sometimes be happy to trade curly braces as block delimiters for Python's style in quite some other languages (including Ruby and Perl, but why not also nearly every common language including Java and maybe plain C?). I just recently came across “Python: Myths about Indentation” (which also has been posted by GvR on a forum) and just want to share it with you: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/Python/block_indentation.hawk
So far I think it’s one of the better explanations and has a good potential to settle the often fanatic discussions.

Python’s requirements to the programmer in this very case turned out to be a great relief in regards of writing and reading, but itself are derived from languages that influenced Python (especially ABC, as far as I can tell). Actually I’d sometimes be happy to trade curly braces as block delimiters for Python’s style in quite some other languages (including Ruby and Perl, but why not also nearly every common language including Java and maybe plain C?).

]]> By: dumb http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7740 dumb Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:26:17 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7740 dumb blogger... dumb blogger…

]]> By: web design http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7684 web design Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:45:56 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7684 And `def bar` is not the same as `defbar` is not the same as `de fb ar`! WAKE UP SHEEPLE And `def bar` is not the same as `defbar` is not the same as `de fb ar`! WAKE UP SHEEPLE

]]> By: Armin Ronacher http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7649 Armin Ronacher Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:32:45 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7649 @12: I was refering to the actual grammar. After the lexing all is left are indent/outdent/newline tokens. I admit that the statement above was a big too harsh :) @12: I was refering to the actual grammar. After the lexing all is left are indent/outdent/newline tokens. I admit that the statement above was a big too harsh :)

]]> By: PC http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7648 PC Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:23:19 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7648 I am currently coding in Ruby but recently I was doing a little Python programming. I was cutting and pasting some code from a webpage and the indentation was screwed up after the pasting. Arghhh! I am currently coding in Ruby but recently I was doing a little Python programming. I was cutting and pasting some code from a webpage and the indentation was screwed up after the pasting. Arghhh!

]]> By: your a dumb http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7638 your a dumb Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:48:33 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7638 check this out, this won't work either: foo = 12 puts f o o check this out, this won’t work either:

foo = 12

puts f o o

]]> By: agnoster http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7635 agnoster Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:37:40 +0000 http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2008/07/01/whitespace-sensitivity/#comment-7635 "Because Python doesn’t care about Whitespace at all." Which is why you can write: defbar():return32 Right? “Because Python doesn’t care about Whitespace at all.”

Which is why you can write:
defbar():return32

Right?

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